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Er der forskel på at være religiøs og spirituel?
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Jahnu
2020-03-17 01:05:33 UTC
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Der er ingen forskel på religiøs og spirituel. Her snakker vi om
religiøs og spirituel i ordenes virkelige betydning. I dag kan man gå
op i alternativ medicin, krystal healing, eller kommunikere med de
døde og være rigtig spirituel. Og det tror man ikke på i Kirken. I
Kirken tror man, at alle andre religiøse traditioner end Kirkens er
Satans værk. Hvis Jesus ikke er er ens personlige frelser, venter evig
fordømmelse og helvedsild.

Det har selvfølgelig intet med virkelig religion at gøre. Religion
betyder at forbinde sig med Gud, og spirituel betyder at være i
kontakt med ånd, og hvad er ånd? Ånd er vores bevidsthed. Den bevidste
partikel, den åndelige sjæl er den virkelige person. Kroppen og sindet
er blot hardwaren og softwaren sjælen bruger til at navigere i den
materielle verden.

At være spirituel betyder at være bevidst om det eneste spirituelle
ved vores eksistens, nemlig os selv, det virkelige selv, den indre
observant, hinsides kroppen og sindet. Spirituel betyder at være
bevidst om den åndelige dimension i tilværelsen. Den åndelige
dimension består af os selv og Gud og deres forening.

Religion går ud på det samme - at forene ens åndelige selv, en atomisk
gnist af bevidsthed - at forene den bevidstheds-partikel med Guds
totale bevidsthed.

Krishna siger:

Hør nu fra Mig, O Prithas søn, hvorledes du ved at udføre yoga i fuld
bevidsthed om Mig, med sindet fæstnet på Mig, kan kende Mig helt og
fuldt uden nogen tvivl. (Bg. 7. 1)

Jeg vil nu udførligt forklare denne viden for dig - både den
materielle og den åndelige. Når du ved dette, er der intet mere
tilbage for dig at vide. (Bg. 7. 2)

Ud af mange tusinde mennesker er der måske en, der stræber efter
fuldkommenhed, og blandt dem, der har opnået fuldkommenhed, er der
næppe en, der kender sandheden om Mig. (Bg. 7.3)

Jord, vand, ild, luft, æter (rum), sind, intelligens og falsk ego -
alt i alt udgør disse otte mine adskilte materielle energier. (Bg.
7.4)

Foruden disse, O sværtbevæbnede Arjuna, har Jeg en anden højere
energi, der består af de levende væsener, der udnytter ressourcerne
fra denne lavere materielle natur. (Bg. 7.5)

Alle skabte væsener stammer fra disse to naturer. Du kan være helt
sikker på, at det er Mig, der er både kilden til og opløsningen af alt
i denne verden hvad enten det er åndeligt eller materielt. (Bg. 7.6)

O vinde af rigdomme (Arjuna), der findes ingen sandhed højere end Mig.
Alting hviler på Mig som perler på en snor. (Bg. 7.7)


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Poul Nielsen
2020-03-17 15:06:24 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Der er ingen forskel på religiøs og spirituel. Her snakker vi om
religiøs og spirituel i ordenes virkelige betydning. I dag kan man gå
Der er stor forskel de to ting.
Jahnu
2020-03-18 04:29:35 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 16:06:24 +0100, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Der er stor forskel de to ting.
Ov Poul, hold dig ikke tilbage. Lad os høre.

"The Supreme Lord is not obtained by expert explanations, by vast
intelligence, or even by much hearing. He is obtained only by one whom
He Himself chooses. To such a person, He manifests His own form."
(Mundaka Upanisad 3.2.3)


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Bo M. Mogensen
2020-03-23 16:21:46 UTC
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Post by Poul Nielsen
Post by Jahnu
Der er ingen forskel på religiøs og spirituel. Her snakker vi om
religiøs og spirituel i ordenes virkelige betydning. I dag kan man gå
Der er stor forskel de to ting.
Æhh jo ? jeg er både kristen kirkegænger healer og medium , mht healing
& den kristne tro er der ikke den store konflikt , store dele af det nye
testamente handler om helbredelse ved håndspålæggelse
Jahnu
2020-03-24 00:17:33 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:21:46 +0100, "Bo M. Mogensen"
Post by Bo M. Mogensen
Æhh jo ? jeg er både kristen kirkegænger healer og medium , mht healing
& den kristne tro er der ikke den store konflikt , store dele af det nye
testamente handler om helbredelse ved håndspålæggelse
Og så døde du...

The world is headed for destruction, for the simple reason that time
erodes and destroys everything. Most people live as if there is no
tomorrow, but time is relentless - it steals away anyone’s hope for
lasting happiness and satisfaction.

That’s why, if we are a little thoughtful, we should begin to
understand that we don't belong here. As we become older in this life
we will realize that without exception everything turns into misery,
sorrow and frustration. Even if we are enjoying to the max, disease,
old age and death always get us in the end.

This would be a depressing realization if there were no positive
alternative, but there is. When you add Krishna to your life and begin
practicing devotion to Him, all this other stuff - family, friends,
society, all your loved ones become as significant as the autumn
leaves rattling in the wind, for the security and bliss you discover
in Krishna's service makes everything else pale in comparison.

-- but, but, that's being defeatist and irresponsible, I hear someone
object.

On the contrary, it is defeatist and irresponsible to surrender to
disease, old age, and death. To explain it away by saying, there is
nothing you can do about it, anyway. God Himself tells you, you can
get out of the ocean of birth and death - to not pay any heed to that,
now, THAT's defeatist and irresponsible.

It is defeatist because you surrender to nature's powers, and it is
irresponsible, because the sole prerogative of the human life-form is
for the soul to get out of samsara - the endless cycle of birth and
death. To not take advantage of that rare opportunity is
irresponsible.

--but, but who will take care of the family, if everyone just goes
off, dresses in sheets and chants mantras?

Family? First of all, one doesn't exclude the other. To practice
devotion to Krishna does not mean you can't take care of your family.
Rather, you can take better care, it's just not the ultimate goal in
life, anymore. And secondly, everyone in the material world takes care
of their families. Ants, cockroaches, cats and dogs and cows take care
of their families. Family is being taken care of in any life-form. In
the modern culture, it is being hailed as some kind of noble,
unassailable, holy principle - the ultimate goal in life one must
stick to, no matter what. Family is God.

The fact is, however, that if humans are just another life-form that
popped out of the evolutionary process, there is nothing more noble or
exquisite about a mother strolling her infant down 5th Avenue in a
pushchair, than an ant carrying an egg home to its nest.

This human life-form is a rare and unique opportunity for the soul to
gain real knowledge that will allow him to get out of the material
world once and for all.

Therefore Lord Brahma says:

One attains the human form of life after transmigrating through
8,400,000 species by the process of gradual evolution. That human life
is spoiled for those conceited fools who do not take shelter of the
lotus feet of Govinda.

--Brahma-vaivarta Purana


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