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Can we see God?
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Jahnu
2021-02-04 04:59:16 UTC
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God can be seen with eyes smeared with the salve of love. God Himself
says He can be seen and understood by the process of bhakti -
devotional service.

Krishna says:

My dear Arjuna, only by undivided devotional service can I be
understood as I am, standing before you, and can thus be seen
directly. Only in this way can you enter into the mysteries of My
understanding. (Bg. 11.54)

Lord Brahma says:

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is Syamasundara, Krsna
Himself with inconceivable innumerable attributes, whom the pure
devotees see in their heart of hearts with the eye of devotion tinged
with the salve of love. -Bs 5.38

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur explains:

The Syamasundara form of Krishna is His inconceivable simultaneous
personal and impersonal self-contradictory form. True devotees see
that form in their purified hearts under the influence of devotional
trance. The form Syama is not the blue color visible in the mundane
world but is the transcendental variegated color affording eternal
bliss, and is not visible to the mortal eye.

On a consideration of the trance of Vyasadeva as in the sloka,
bhakti-yogena manasi etc. [SB 1.7.4], it will be clear that the form
of Sri Krishna is the full Personality of Godhead and can only be
visible in the heart of a true devotee, which is the only true seat in
the state of trance under the influence of devotion.

When Krishna manifested Himself in Vraja, both the devotees and
non-devotees saw Him with this very eye; but only the devotees
cherished Him, eternally present in Vraja, as the priceless jewel of
their heart.

Nowadays also the devotees see Him in Vraja in their hearts, saturated
with devotion although they do not see Him with their eyes. The eye of
devotion is nothing but the eye of the pure unalloyed spiritual self
of the jiva. The form of Krishna is visible to that eye in proportion
to its purification by the practice of devotion.

When the devotion of the neophyte reaches the stage of bhava-bhakti
the pure eye of that devotee is tinged with the salve of love by the
grace of Krishna, which enables him to see Krishna face to face. The
phrase "in their hearts" means Krishna is visible in proportion as
their hearts are purified by the practice of devotion.

The sum and substance of this sloka is that the form of Krishna, who
is Syamasundara, Natavara (Best Dancer), Muralidhara (Holder of the
Flute) and Tribhanga (Triple-bending), is not a mental concoction but
is transcendental, and is visible with the eye of the soul of the
devotee under trance.
Poul Nielsen
2021-02-06 13:02:20 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
God can be seen with eyes smeared with the salve of love. God Himself
says He can be seen and understood by the process of bhakti -
devotional service.
Ive have met God he was the most fantastic inner being ive ever meet.
Jahnu
2021-02-09 10:35:59 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 14:02:20 +0100, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Ive have met God he was the most fantastic inner being ive ever meet.
You confuse Sai Baba with God, Pølledreng. God is not some ugly little
shit with Hendrix hair.

"Both animals and men share the activities of eating, sleeping, mating
and defending. But the special property of the humans is that they are
able to engage in spiritual life. Therefore without spiritual life,
humans are on the level of animals." -Hitopadesa

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