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One can only pity meat-eaters
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Jahnu
2020-05-29 00:23:56 UTC
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He who, without being checked by the restraints of the scriptures,
sells a cow for slaughter, kills a cow, or eats the flesh of a cow, or
for the sake of money causes a person to kill cows, rots in hell for
as many years as there are hairs on the body of the slain cow.

[ Mahabharata, Anusasana Parva ]

To start with, the Manu-samhita clearly and logically recommends that,
"Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and
injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the attainment of heavenly
bliss; let him therefore shun the use of meat. Having well considered
the disgusting origin of flesh and the cruelty of fettering and
slaying corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh."
(Manu-samhita 5.48-49)

However, it is not simply the person who eats the meat that becomes
implicated by eating the dead animal, but also those who assist in the
process. "He who permits the slaughter of an animal, he who cuts it
up, he who kills it, he who buys or sells meat, he who cooks it, he
who serves it up, and he who eats it, must all be considered as the
slayers of the animal. There is no greater sinner than that man who
though not worshiping the gods or the ancestors, seeks to increase the
bulk of his own flesh by the flesh of other beings." (Manu-samhita
5.51-52)

As we get further into the Manu-samhita, there are warnings that
become increasingly more serious. For example, "If he has a strong
desire (for meat) he may make an animal of clarified butter or one of
flour (and eat that); but let him never seek to destroy an animal
without a (lawful) reason. As many hairs as the slain beast has, so
often indeed will he who killed it without a (lawful) reason suffer a
violent death in future births." (Manu-samhita 5.37-38)

In this way, the only time to carry out the need to kill animals for
consumption is when there is an emergency such as when there simply is
nothing else to eat. Otherwise, when there are plenty of grains,
vegetables, fruits, etc., to eat, it is only mankind's lust and
selfish desires that motivate one to kill other beings to satisfy
one's tongue by tasting their blood and flesh, or to fatten one's
wallet by making money from participating in the distribution or the
cooking of meat. Such violent actions create opposite reactions. For
this reason the warnings are given, "He who injures harmless creatures
from a wish to give himself pleasure, never finds happiness in this
life or the next." (Manu-samhita 5.45)
Poul Nielsen
2020-05-30 16:21:38 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
He who, without being checked by the restraints of the scriptures,
sells a cow for slaughter, kills a cow, or eats the flesh of a cow, or
for the sake of money causes a person to kill cows, rots in hell for
as many years as there are hairs on the body of the slain cow.
Krishna spiste kød. vegetarisme blev først indført af Buddha i indien.
Jahnu
2020-05-31 01:17:52 UTC
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On Sat, 30 May 2020 18:21:38 +0200, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Krishna spiste kød. vegetarisme blev først indført af Buddha i indien.
Kæft, du er dum at høre på, Pølle.

"One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if
such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not
hesitate to cut off his head." --Rig-veda (10.87.16)
Poul Nielsen
2020-05-31 12:29:33 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
On Sat, 30 May 2020 18:21:38 +0200, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Krishna spiste kød. vegetarisme blev først indført af Buddha i indien.
Kæft, du er dum at høre på, Pølle.
Buddha og Mahavir indførte vegetarisme i indien. Jesper werneburg har
tidligere benægtet disse historiske facts, hinduerne var kvægdrivere,
hvis de ikke spiste kød giver det ingen mening at drive kvæg.
Jahnu
2020-06-01 00:36:28 UTC
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 14:29:33 +0200, Poul Nielsen went:

---but, but Ah seen it on TV.


The human form of life is a unique chance for the soul to realize its
true, spiritual nature. As long as we identify with the body and its
culture, we will remain in illusion, and be attacked by all kinds of
problems. As soon as one realizes that he is not the body, but the
soul within, problems like for instance racism, vanish.

One who neglects to seek out his spiritual nature, his real identity
as a soul, which is only possible in the human life-form, sends a
signal to nature that one does not need to be human, and one will be
sent back to yet another cycle in the lower life-forms.

A human who does not seek spiritual realization is in fact no better
than an animal.

Krishna says:

One who identifies his self as the inert body composed of mucus, bile
and air, who assumes his wife and family are permanently his own, who
thinks an earthen image or the land of his birth is worshipable, or
who sees a place of pilgrimage as merely the water there, but who
never identifies himself with, feels kinship with, worships or even
visits those who are wise in spiritual truth -- such a person is no
better than a cow or an ass. --SB 10.84.13
Poul Nielsen
2020-06-02 09:37:20 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
---but, but Ah seen it on TV.
another cycle in the lower life-forms.
A human who does not seek spiritual realization is in fact no better
than an animal.
Krishna says: a lot.
Du har ikke svar på mit enkle spørgsmål. vegetarer kan ikke forstå
simple spørgsmål fordi de er vegetarer. vegetarisme påvirker den
menneskelige intelligens negativt.
Jahnu
2020-06-04 02:23:56 UTC
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On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:37:20 +0200, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Du har ikke svar på mit enkle spørgsmål. vegetarer kan ikke forstå
simple spørgsmål fordi de er vegetarer. vegetarisme påvirker den
menneskelige intelligens negativt.
hahaha :D Kæft, du er dum at høre på, Pølle.


"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival
of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet"
-Albert Einstein
Poul Nielsen
2020-06-04 10:35:52 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:37:20 +0200, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Du har ikke svar på mit enkle spørgsmål. vegetarer kan ikke forstå
simple spørgsmål fordi de er vegetarer. vegetarisme påvirker den
menneskelige intelligens negativt.
hahaha :D Kæft, du er dum at høre på, Pølle.
Sig ikke dette, jeg er faktisk 50% vegetar Susanne er helt vegetar, så
herhjemme serveres kun vegetar burgere så når jeg skal ha en steak må
jeg ud af huset. Men jeg tror ikke det er sundt med 100% vegetarisme.
jeg husker fra jeg var med i TM at mange med tiden blev tynde på en
usund måde.
Jahnu
2020-06-05 01:38:07 UTC
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 12:35:52 +0200, Poul Nielsen
Post by Poul Nielsen
Sig ikke dette, jeg er faktisk 50% vegetar Susanne er helt vegetar, så
herhjemme serveres kun vegetar burgere så når jeg skal ha en steak må
jeg ud af huset. Men jeg tror ikke det er sundt med 100% vegetarisme.
jeg husker fra jeg var med i TM at mange med tiden blev tynde på en
usund måde.
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