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Har mennesker overnaturlige evner?
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Jahnu
2021-06-06 00:35:14 UTC
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A supernatural ability humans share with all living entities is to be
alive.

As long as we can't create conscious awareness in laboratory,
consciousness, per definition, is supernaturel.

Supernatural events are supernatural because they have no natural or
scientific explanation. Of course, most scientists claim that
consciousness, or life is simply chemicals, nothing more.

When asked why then they don't reproduce consciousness chemically, the
answer is - we cannot do that right now, but that's no reason to think
that we shall always remain unable to create life in a test tube. It's
simply a matter of time before we have the knowledge that'll enable us
to create life.

You see, there is no magic involved in creating life. It's all a
natural process. If you ask me what exactly is that natural process, I
have no idea, I just call it a natural process to make it sound like
it's science, to fool creationists into thinking, that I know what I'm
talking about.

These poor religious fanatics, they need some magical, invisible pixie
sitting in the sky, to explain nature, but me? Forget it, I don't need
magic to explain nature, because it's all a naturall process.

You see, first there was a point... I call the point a singularity to
make it sound less ridiculous, I imagine it's a point of all mass,
space, and time, so no need to worry about what was outside the point,
because there was nothing outside the point - no space, no time, no
mass, no nothing, you understand? There was only the point, and from
that point a universe came out, just like that, for no apparent
reason, poof, it just happened, see? No magic involved... it's all a
natural process, and as we know natural processes are very scientific.

I won't get into what happened with the natural processes after the
universe popped into existence - how life evolved out of chemicals and
then transmuted itself from an amoeba into a talking human being.
Don't worry yourself about all these annoying details, all you have to
understand is that it's completely natural and scientific.... and that
it happened over long, long time. That's all you have to know.

Also, don't worry yourself that no one with a brain actually believes
the world created itself out of a bunch of chemicals, don't worry that
the most prominent and brainy scientists on the planet support the
idea of ID - Intelligent Design, simply because it makes more sense.

That's totally inconsequential. All you have to know is that it's all
completely natural. It doesn't matter you have no clue what it means
or entails. You simply have to repeat it like a mantra, just try it
natural process, natural process, process process, no magic, no magic
…see how good it makes you feel?

"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a
superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry
and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about
in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."

-- Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
Helle Jensen
2021-06-06 03:38:05 UTC
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Det er der nogen der påstår at de har: http://bmm9.dk/
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Helle Jensen
Lyrik
2021-06-06 17:54:48 UTC
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Post by Helle Jensen
Det er der nogen der påstår at de har: http://bmm9.dk/
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I USA kaldte de dem "Snake oil salesmen"! Det var meget almindeligt at
de blev dyppet i tjære og bagefter rullet i fjer!( Når man opdagede
deres bedrag)
Derefter blev de sat op på en 4"x 4" bjælke og så blev "Fuglen" båret ud
af byen.

Det var problematisk at få tjæren af. Et råd var andefedt og en masse
tålmodighed. Rådet var fra Jehovas Vidner som led samme skæbne.


MvH
jenserik
Jahnu
2021-06-07 04:10:41 UTC
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Post by Lyrik
Det var problematisk at få tjæren af. Et råd var andefedt og en masse
tålmodighed. Rådet var fra Jehovas Vidner som led samme skæbne.
You don't find God. God finds you. God is in the hearts of all living
entities, and as soon as He sees a genuine desire develop in the heart
of a person to know Him, God will manifest Himself. IOW, God reserves
the right to not manifest Himself to the foolish and unintelligent.

God can only be found by someone to whom God shows Himself.
Those people who say - I see no evidence of God - God will stay away
from such persons. He will cover Himself by His yoga-maya.

The difference between between yoga-maya and maha-maya is that
yoga-maya is God's internal potency that covers Himself. Maha-maya is
God's external potency -His illusory potency, which covers the living
entities in ignorance.

Krishna says:

I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible. (Bg 7.25)

"The Supreme Lord is not obtained by expert explanations, by vast
intelligence, or even by much hearing. He is obtained only by one whom
He Himself chooses. To such a person, He manifests His own form."
(Mundaka Upanisad 3.2.3)
Dieter Britz
2021-06-08 13:41:30 UTC
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Post by Helle Jensen
Det er der nogen der påstår at de har: http://bmm9.dk/
Det gør ikke godt indtryk at manden ikke kan stave...
Men mht overnaturlige evner, vi er jo en del af naturen,
så alt det nogen af os kan, er naturligt.
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Dieter Britz
EXLEX
2021-06-08 20:40:32 UTC
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Post by Dieter Britz
Post by Helle Jensen
Det er der nogen der påstår at de har: http://bmm9.dk/
Det gør ikke godt indtryk at manden ikke kan stave...
Men mht overnaturlige evner, vi er jo en del af naturen,
så alt det nogen af os kan, er naturligt.
Ja, ja...
...og plastik er et rent "naturprodukt", da det består af stoffer, som
kommer fra naturen...




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Jahnu
2021-06-11 02:23:52 UTC
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Post by EXLEX
Ja, ja...
...og plastik er et rent "naturprodukt", da det består af stoffer, som
kommer fra naturen...
Er du åndsvag? Du taler direkte imod al fakta. Hvor gammel er du? 90?
Hvordan kan du ikke vide at plastic er en af de værste økosynder
begået af menneskeheden. Hvordan kan du få ind i dinne lille hjerne,
at det skulle være godt at plastre jorden over med tjære og olie?

Jeg spørger igen, er du åndsvag?

Herren Rishabhadeva (en inkarnation af Gud) siger:

"Når en person betragter sanse-tilfredsstillelse som målet med livet,
bliver han sandelig helt gal efter en materiel livsførelse og udfører
alle mulige syndefulde handlinger. Han er ikke klar over, at pga. sine
tidligere misgerninger har han allerede modtaget en krop, der, selvom
den er midlertidig, er årsag til hans elendighed. I virkeligheden
burde det levende væsen ikke have antaget en materiel krop, men han er
blevet iført kroppen for sansenydelse. Jeg synes derfor ikke, at det
passer sig for en intelligent person igen at beskæftige sig med
sanse-tilfredsstillelse gennem hvilken, han bestandigt får en ny krop
den ene efter den anden.' --Srimad Bhagavatam 5.5.4
EXLEX
2021-06-11 22:38:15 UTC
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Post by EXLEX
Ja, ja...
...og plastik er et rent "naturprodukt", da det består af stoffer, som
kommer fra naturen...
Er du åndsvag? Du taler direkte imod al bla bla bla
Jeg nøjes med at bemærke, at ironi ikke er din stærke side...

..og hvis du ikke havde så travlt med dine fordømmelser, ville du se, at
vi er ganske enige vedr. de miljømæssige konsekvenser.




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Jahnu
2021-06-13 01:45:01 UTC
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Post by EXLEX
Jeg nøjes med at bemærke, at ironi ikke er din stærke side...
..og hvis du ikke havde så travlt med dine fordømmelser, ville du se, at
vi er ganske enige vedr. de miljømæssige konsekvenser.
Men det glæder mig da at høre. Måske er du ikke helt åndsvag.

"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau
EXLEX
2021-06-13 02:21:59 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Post by EXLEX
Jeg nøjes med at bemærke, at ironi ikke er din stærke side...
..og hvis du ikke havde så travlt med dine fordømmelser, ville du se, at
vi er ganske enige vedr. de miljømæssige konsekvenser.
Men det glæder mig da at høre. Måske er du ikke helt åndsvag.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau
Det ville forbløffe mig meget, hvis der ikke skulle være adskillige
ting, vi kunne blive enige om.

Men vi er fortsat på kollisionskurs i religiøse spørgsmål - og med
hensyn til bacon.




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Vidal
2021-06-13 10:34:29 UTC
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Post by EXLEX
Post by Jahnu
Post by EXLEX
Jeg nøjes med at bemærke, at ironi ikke er din stærke side...
..og hvis du ikke havde så travlt med dine fordømmelser, ville du se, at
vi er ganske enige vedr. de miljømæssige konsekvenser.
Men det glæder mig da at høre. Måske er du ikke helt åndsvag.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture."  - Henry David Thoreau
Det ville forbløffe mig meget, hvis der ikke skulle være adskillige
ting, vi kunne blive enige om.
Heller ikke mig. "Østens mystik"! Wauv! Prøv at se resultatet af
den i behandlingen af kvinder i Indien. Hvis en kvinde går uden
beskyttelse kan hun være sikker på at blive offer for en masse-
voldtægt og efterfølgende blive dræbt.

Det er ren kultur! Frank Jensens øreslik blegner.
Post by EXLEX
Men vi er fortsat på kollisionskurs i religiøse spørgsmål - og med
hensyn til bacon.
Jahnu
2021-06-14 04:29:13 UTC
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Post by EXLEX
Det ville forbløffe mig meget, hvis der ikke skulle være adskillige
ting, vi kunne blive enige om.
Men vi er fortsat på kollisionskurs i religiøse spørgsmål - og med
hensyn til bacon.
Kødindustrien er rendyrket ondskab og den største synder mod miljøet.


"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival
of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet"
-Albert Einstein

Vidal
2021-06-13 10:34:35 UTC
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Post by Jahnu
Post by EXLEX
Jeg nøjes med at bemærke, at ironi ikke er din stærke side...
..og hvis du ikke havde så travlt med dine fordømmelser, ville du se, at
vi er ganske enige vedr. de miljømæssige konsekvenser.
Men det glæder mig da at høre. Måske er du ikke helt åndsvag.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau
Ja, det var heldigt den hebræiske civilisation og religion,
blev afløst af kristendommen.
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