There is no shame in doing something you love to do

[Jahnu]

On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 09:09:09 -0000 (UTC), Beyond the Known

There is no shame in doing something you love to do.

So if you love to molest little kids, here is no shame in that?

There is no reason one would drop their joy after awakening.

I suggest you drop the joy you get from eating strips of a dead pig
and scrambled snot for breakfast. It's not good for your karma.

In fact, a greater appreciation might be revealed, as the experience and
the doing become an unparalleled event.

In the future, the general population will lose their faith in the
materialistic view of life - gradual evolution, life from chemicals, a
random formation of the universe etc. - theories that are without
scientific evidence, and that are met with increasing incredulity by
prominent scientists, but which are none the less propagated to the
population as scientific, well-established facts.

Due to the Bhakti-movement started in the 1500s by Sri Chaitanya
Mahaprabhu, who is Krishna Himself, and of which Hare Krishna is the
modern off-shoot, there is a trend of increasing awareness of God and
the spiritual dimensions of life happening in the world.

It’s a very slow process, this is after all Kali-yuga, the most
degraded of ages, but if we have some historical awareness, we will
know that the truth-sayers in any society have always begun as a
scorned and ridiculed minority.

Once, Srila Prabhupada stated that one day people will thank the Hare
Krishnas for saving the world. This is not just the idle statement of
some wishful thinking. Srila Prabhupada is predicted in the Puranas by
God Himself.

Krishna says (to Ganga-devi):

After the first 5,000 years of Kaliyuga has elapsed, a pure devotee
will be born and he will spread the chanting of Krishna’s holy names
all over the world. (Brahma Vaivarta Purana)

And it was also foretold by Bhaktivinode Thakur more than a hundred
years ago:

Very soon the unparalleled path of hari-nama sankirtana will be
propagated all over the world. Oh, for that day when the fortunate
English, French, Russian, German, and American people will take up
banners, mridangas, and karatalas and raise kirtana through their
streets and towns! When will that day come?

(Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura Sajjana Tosani 4.3, 'Nityadharma Suryodoy'
1885)

Srila Prabhupada says:

Our fighting is against atheism. They say, there is no God. God is
dead. I am God. You are God. We are fighting against these principles.
So our fighting is very strong. Don't think that we are sitting idly.
I have come here to fight with these atheists. We go everywhere. We
are fighting with atheists all over the world.

You cannot expect a favourable situation. And still you have to
preach. That is preaching. They will speak like madmen, so many
things. They are mad, after all. nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad
indriya-pritaya aprnoti. They have no sense. All materialistic persons
are madmen. Still, by the order of superior, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, we
have to do this preaching work. Actually, the American boys are
fighting against so many unfavourable situations. They are sometimes
beaten in the airport, do you know that? Still they are preaching.
That is preaching.


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[Thomas Corell]

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Post by Jahnu
On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 09:09:09 -0000 (UTC), Beyond the Known

There is no shame in doing something you love to do.

So if you love to molest little kids, here is no shame in that?

There is no reason one would drop their joy after awakening.

I suggest you drop the joy you get from eating strips of a dead pig
and scrambled snot for breakfast. It's not good for your karma.

Jeg er overbevist om, at afsenderen ikke gøre nogen af de ting, du
beskylder vedkommende for.

[Jahnu]

On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 09:29:33 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Corell

Post by Thomas Corell
Jeg er overbevist om, at afsenderen ikke gøre nogen af de ting, du
beskylder vedkommende for.

Ov, det er godt du siger det. Dine overbevisninger er meget vigtige
for mig.

I was converted by the missionary activities of ISKCON, the Hare
Krishna movement. I joined the Hare Krishnas because they were the
only ones who could answer all the questions I had about God and life
and death.

I grew up in Denmark in the 60s and 70s. Even though Denmark has a
state supported Lutheran Church, it’s considered a very atheistic
country.

In the 60s and 70s, religious people were considered weirdos. No one
in my family, circle of friends or teachers in school believed in God.
Thus I grew up as a complete atheist. Later in life, probably from
smoking ganja, I began wondering about God and the higher dimensions
of life. I was around 19 by then. Also, another reason I started
wondering about God - I couldn’t understand that even though I got all
the sex, drugs and rock’nroll, I could possibly want, I was never
really satisfied. I always felt something lacking.

I tried so many things. I tried to be an intellectual communist. I
read all the books in the library on philosophy and religion. One book
I was quite attracted to was one written by Paul Brunton - an American
who went to India to find a guru, but couldn’t commit to any, so he
wrote his own book. I forget what it was called. But now I know it was
inspired by impersonal, Mayavada philosophy.

I became very critical of society. Me and and some of my friends even
talked about joining Bader-Mainhof of Rote Arme Fraktion, but luckily
it remained the idle talk of a bunch of stoners.

I tried to be a Buddhist. I tried yoga and meditation. I practiced
pranayama. At that time I met the Mormons, and they gave me my first
experience of God. I converted to the Mormons. I was baptized and
everything. But there were too many questions they had no good answers
to. At that time I was on a quest to find the truth and real purpose
of life. I was very attracted to the ideas of karma and reincarnation.

One day, I was 24 by then, I was very frustrated in existential
anxiety and I called out to Jesus - Oh Christ, please show me the way.
And lo and behold, the very next day my girl-friend came home… she
said - I met this weird dude on the street and he wouldn’t let me go
until I had taken this book, and she threw it at me - here I know you
are interested in this shit. It turned out she had met a Hare Krishna,
who gave her The Science of Self-realization in Danish. As soon as I
read that book, I knew I had found God and the meaning of life. Half a
year later I moved into the Hare Krishna temple in Copenhagen. That
was in 1982. So it took me, like, 5 years from I began my search for
the truth of life, and till I met the Hare Krishnas.

Thank God for Prabhupada and vice versa… and Jesus showed me the way
:)

Krishna says:

After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)



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[Jahnu]

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:50:56 +0100, Klaus Alexander Seistrup

Jeg troede Jahnu var en bot der postede tilfældige udklip fra
Bhagavad Gita i irrelevante grupper. ?

Nåå, troede du det? Pas nu på, du ikke begynder at græde.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm

Ateister har det med altid at hyle op om beviser. Det er som om, de
helt har glemt, at deres egen tro, dvs. troen på at materien er den
yderste årsag, er total blind tro uden basis i den observerbare
virkelighed. Så er kravet på bevis ligepludseligt borte.

Men det er den dobbel-standard, man bliver tvunget til at acceptere
som ateist. Man kræver stenhård, empirisk bevisførelse, når det kommer
til Gud og religion, men når det kommer til ens egen trosretning,
stilles der ikke de samme krav til bevisførelse.

Det er let at bevise, at hvis man opretholder en ateistisk mentalitet,
vil man opleve langt højere grader af lidelse, elendighed og
eksistentiel ængstelse, end hvis man forbinder sig med Krishna. Det er
et empirisk faktum, enhver kan undersøge og verificere -
Krishnabevidsthed medfører større glæde i tilværelsen og ateisme
medfører mere frustration og lidelse i livet. Det er et beviseligt
faktum.

Nu kommer så den sædvanlige lamme indvending - jamen, jeg lider ikke.
Jeg har det godt.

Denne udtalelse kan kun skyldes, at man ligger under for den moderne
propaganda, der bort-rationaliserer lidelsen - man må tage det gode
med det onde. Den pause i elendigheden, som man får ud af kropslig
nydelse, opvejer al lidelsen. Det gode opvejer det onde. Uden lidelse
kan man ikke udvikle sig som person osv osv. Man tror ikke, at lidelse
er så dårlig. Ja, man tror endda, at uden lidelse kan der ikke være
nogen glæde. Eller også er man bare for dækket af uvidenhed til at
forstå, at man lider - ligesom et dyr.

Hvad de fleste materialister ikke forstår, er at den materielle verden
grundliggende set er fuld af frustration og elendighed. Det er sådan
Krishna har designet den. Hvis den materielle verden var perfekt,
vllle de faldne sjæle aldrig udvikle ønsket om at slippe ud af den og
vende tilbage til Krishna.

Ateister bruge den materielle verdens fejl og mangler som argument
for, at en almægtig, barmhjertig Gud ikke kunne have skabt den. En
perfekt Gud ville have skabt noget perfekt, siger de. Hvis der er en
Gud, hvorfor er der så al den lidelse i verden?

Pointen her er, at der ER en perfekt verden uden lidelse og
elendighed. Det kaldes den åndelige verden, hvor Krishna leger for
evigt sammen med de befriede sjælen. Den materielle verden er netop et
sted Han har skabt til de sjæle, der ikke ville være sammen med Ham.
Han lavede en verden, hvor de kunne komme og efterligne Ham. Og den er
designet til at bringe de karmiske reaktioner til enhver handling.

Selv om den materielle verden er et sted fyldt med lidelse, så vil de
fleste faldne sjæle alligevel gerne blive her. Og Krishna er så
venlig, at han lader dem tro, at de nyder og har det godt. Selv når
sjælen er i de mest helvedesagtige omstændigheder, som fx. når den
befinder sig som tarm-mide i en eller andens indvolde, så tror den, at
den nyder. Men slutpunktet i den materielle verden er altid lidelse,
for alting ender i sygdom, alderdom og død.

Hvis verden er et lortested, er det udelukkende vores egen fejl. Det
er ikke kemikaliernes fejl. Det er ikke Guds fejl. Det er vores fejl.
Gud har givet os mulighed til at lave jorden til et paradis eller et
helvede. Hvadenten det er godt eller dårligt, så er man selv årsagen,
individuelt eller kollektivt. Det er blot en naturlov. Og man lærer
ikke om den i skolen. Det er sker i et uvidende samfund styret af
ugudelige kræfter.

Den menneskelige livsform er en enstående chance for sjælen at
erkende sand lykke og skønhed - den lykke og skønhed, man oplever, når
man bliver befriet for ængstelse og usikkerhed og erkender den
virkelige mening med alting. Skeptikeren hævder, at en sådan
erkendelse er ikke er mulig under nogen omstændigheder, men der er
ingen som helst basis for en sådan konklusion. Tværtimod, alt peger
på, at en erkendelsen af den Absolutte Sandhed er mulig. Hvis Gud er
til, er det muligt, at erkende Ham som Han er. Det er jo indlysende.

Hvis Gud ikke er til, er det ikke muligt at erkende hinsides tvivl. Så
ateisters konklusion hviler på en umulighed i den forstand, at deres
trosretning ikke kan bekræftes, for det kan ikke lade sig gøre at
bevise, at Gud ikke eksisterer.

Men hvis Han eksisterer, kan det bevises. Så ateismen hviler på en
antagelse, der er uverificerbar. Det er klart, at kun en tåbe kan
overgive sig til en tro, der er ubekræftelig. Som teist har man i det
mindste en teoretisk mulighed for at få sin antagelse bekræftiget.

Krishna siger:

Fra den højeste planet ned til den laveste i denne materielle verden
er alle steder fulde af elendighed, hvor gentagende fødsel og død
finder sted. Men den, der når Min bolig, O Kuntis søn, vil aldrig mere
blive født. (Bg. 8.16)

Ydmyghed; at være uden hovmod; ikke-vold; tolerance; enkelhed; at
vende sig til en autoriseret åndelig mester; renlighed; vedholdenhed;
selvbeherskelse; at forsage objekterne for sansenydelse; fravær af
falsk ego; at indse det onde i fødsel, død, alderdom og sygdom;
ubundethed; at være fri for tilknytning til børn, kone, hjem osv.; at
være i ligevægt under både behagelige og ubehagelige hændelser;
konstant og ren hengivenhed til Mig; at tilstræbe et liv på afsides
beliggende steder; at være uafhængig af den generelle menneskemasse;
at indse vigtigheden af selverkendelse; og filosofisk at søge efter
den Absolutte Sandhed - alt i alt erklærer Jeg dette for at være
viden, og hvad der end findes der udover, er uvidenhed. (Bg. 13.8-12)

Det man skal notere sig her, er at erkendelsen af det onde i fødsel,
sygdom, alderdom og død, er et af symptomerne på viden. De fleste
mennesker vil simpelthen ikke erkende, at de lider, og at lidelse er
en dårlig ting. Materialister forsøger af al magt at retfærdiggøre og
bort-rationalisere lidelse og elendighed. De siger, at det er
uundgåelige faktorer ved eksistensen. Men det er ikke sandt. Det er
lige omvendt. Det er rendyrket ondskab at ville betinge sjælen, der er
evig, fuld af viden og lykke, til en lidelsesfuld kropslig eksistens.

Så beviset på, at ateisme er dårlig for sindet er, at livstroen som
filosofi bringer uvished, tvivl, usikkerhed og endeløs ængstelse og
bekymring. Krishnabevidsthed er løsningen på dette dilema. Enhver, der
serøist forsøger at overgive sig til Krishna, vil opleve, at han
gradvist bliver fri for disse materielle elendigheder. Alt andet er
bare lapperier, og det ender altid i det samme - sorg og elendighed.

Hele ideen om evig romance er en løgn fabrikeret af Hollywood. Vi ved
alle at kærligheden til andre levende væsener, selv den vi har til
vores børn og partner, aldrig varer evigt. Det hører altid op, og så
skal man til det igen med at finde romance og mening i livet. I
Vedaerne kaldes det at tygge det, der allerede er blevet tygget. Det
er først når man finder Krishna, at man bliver tilfreds i tilværelsen
- varigt tilfreds. Det er kun til Krishna og Hans hengivne, man kan
have sand (dvss. Evig) kærlighed.

Prahlad Maharaja siger:

Because of their uncontrolled senses, persons too addicted to
materialistic life make progress toward hellish conditions and
repeatedly chew that which has already been chewed. Their inclinations
toward Krishna are never aroused, either by the instructions of
others, by their own efforts, or by a combination of both.

Krishna siger:

Hør nu fra Mig, O Prithas søn, hvorledes du ved at udføre yoga i fuld
bevidsthed om Mig, med sindet fæstnet på Mig, kan kende Mig helt og
fuldt uden nogen tvivl. Jeg vil nu udførligt forklare denne viden for
dig - både den materielle og den åndelige. Når du ved dette, er der
intet mere tilbage for dig at vide. (Bg. 7. 1-2)

Hvis du bliver bevidst om Mig, vil du gennem Min nåde overkomme alle
de forhindringer, der er forbundet med betinget liv. Hvis du der i mod
ikke arbejder i en sådan bevidsthed, men handler gennem det falske ego
uden at lytte til Mig, vil du blive fortabt. (Bg 18.58)



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[Jahnu]

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 09:53:42 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Corell

Bot-fight ! Måske vi skulle få Eliza til at mægle ?

Obviously, nobody is an atheist due to lack of evidence of God. In
fact, the last thing an atheist wants, is proof of God. The whole
world is proof of an intelligent designer. One becomes an atheist when
one does not want God in his life, not because there is no proof of
God. It’s as simple as that.

I mean, I can understand why someone would be against certain
religions. The theology of the Abrahamic religions, for instance, is
largely sectarian nonsense.

But to deny the obvious intelligent design observable in nature, to
actually suggest the world created itself out of a bunch of chemicals,
that’s just plain dumb.

Of course, only God can prove who He is, but there is empiric proof of
His existence. The irreducible complexity of living organisms is the
logical proof of the Intelligent Design of nature.

So ID is a direct, observable fact of nature.

Thus, ID comprises the empirical proof of God.
Irreducible complexity is like a car engine, where all the parts of
the engine are interdependent in their functions. The cylinders
function only in combination with the pistons, the pistons function
only in connection with the spark plugs, the spark plugs depend on the
electric system for their function, and son on. All the components of
the engine work only in combination with each-other.

In other words, a car engine is only functional as a complete unit. If
one component fails, the whole engine fails. Hence the term
irreducible complexity.


IOW, the idea that abiogenesis and evolution, with no guiding
intelligence behind it, produced all the living species, is basically
an affront to a working intellect.

To say, like atheists do, that the universe created itself out of a
bunch of chemicals, is like saying that a Mercedes Benz created itself
without any creative intelligence behind it.


Professor Werner Gitt, who works in the field of information science
writes:


“There is no known natural law through which matter can give rise to
information, neither is there any physical process or material
phenomenon known that can do this. All languages, alphabets, and codes
that we know of, as well as the information spoken or written in them,
originated in minds. The blind faith of the atheist that the first
life was an exception to this fact is contrary to all known evidence.”

(Werner Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, 1997, p. 79)

In my mind, however, apart from the fact that the ID observable in
nature is proof of God, and, say, if one’s brain is not equipped to
handle logic and reason, the best proof of God is that you become
totally happy by adding Krishna to your life.

Someone may object - you also become happy by smoking some dope or
winning the lottery, or having sex, what’s the difference? How is that
proof of God?

The thing about bodily or mental pleasures, though, is that they don’t
make the soul happy. Connecting to Krishna makes the soul happy, and
contrary to sense-gratification, which always ends in misery and
leaves you frustrated, the happiness of the soul is a constant fact.
Not only does the happiness of the soul not end, it only increases
more and more. It’s a deep and lasting bliss that is never interrupted
by suffering.

Sure, you may break a leg, your wife may leave you, your children may
think you’re a complete loser, or you may be depressed due to lack of
money, but the deep satisfaction of Krishna consciousness, once
established, never leaves the heart. And that’s the proof that Krishna
is God.

So, as the saying goes - the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Krishna says:

O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification. --Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.14.12








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